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Seriously.

Journal Entry: Wed Oct 31, 2007, 11:21 AM
  • Mood: Disgust
  • Listening to: linkin park- from the inside
  • Reading: ouran high school host club vol. 4
  • Playing: guitar hero *i wish*
  • Eating: BLT
So I'm just going to let my feelings loose on something that has really been bothering me for a long time now. I hope some of you can take the time to read this because I feel like its really important.

Most of you have probably noticed. DeviantArt has become almost entirely fan-based, and its lost a lot of its artistic merit. I don’t even think 10% of the stuff making the front page deserves it.
I’ve been here less than a year, but I still remember it being really different even when I joined. And I was talking to :icontuxedo-masked: last night, who, on her old account, has been a member of this website for a long time. She told me how deviantArt used to be a more “ prestigious” website, and there were lots of beautiful works.

Now, 75% of the shit that gets posted is crap that belongs on facebook, or on other websites. When people refer to deviantArt now, it’s the “free porn” website, its lost so much of its original intent.
Many of you reading this may be insulted, but this is my true opinion. I am a hypocrite by writing this too. I have, in the past, posted a few deviations that are more suitable for facebook. I sincerely believe that its okay to post lame photo ID’s, they ARE ID’s, but I’m getting sick of going to pages when there’s nothing BUT lame “Screenshots” stupid photos “desktop screenshots” that aren’t even their own artwork. And the porn!! PORN SHOULD NOT BE ON HERE. Again, I’m being a hypocrite, but there IS a difference between artistic erotica and blatant SEX SEX SEX SEX cheap ass porn. Give it a break people. Post your porn on other websites. Theres lots of them out there that are just as popular as dA. Fan-fiction for example. Or Y-gallery. Those are websites KNOWN for that stuff.

Im sick of the bad reputation dA is getting.
Stop posting explicit porn on DeviantArt. Period.
It.
Is.
Not.
Art.

I’ve come to realize that art is one of the few things that makes me happy. I love it to death, I want to improve as much as I can, I want to draw/ paint/create almost every moment I’m awake, I want to be a serious artist. So many people have had their amazing talent discovered on DA, or find wonderful inspiration when admiring the talented works of others. That’s what I’m here for. I know I am no where close to the level that I want to be at. Me? Discovered? Ya right, my art still sucks in comparison to many others. That’s because I’m still developing as an artist. I do NOT consider my sketches or anime drawings TRUE art. Any art college or university will NOT accept anime in a portfolio on most conditions unless it is masterfully done. My anime drawings are fun for me to do, and I love to try and develop new styles, because it inspires me to create more. And it drives me bonkers that my fan art shit gets the most views/comments/ favourites.

I was looking through my gallery and I was utterly shocked and offended that some of my most popular pieces are fucking lame “fan art drawings” or stupid joke comics that took me like 30 minutes to do, yet all the artwork that Im TRULY proud of, that I poured my heart into, has so little recognition because it is not fan Art.

I put a shit load of my stuff into scraps, I’ve deleted a bunch of stuff, and everything else is going to receive major editing. I’ve done this over the process of 2 weeks, which is why you probably haven’t seen a sudden drastic change, but oh yes, its been happening. Yes, much of my fan art and stuff will stay, but only the stuff that a) I spent a long time on and am proud of or b) because it has potential/I like it because I’m weird. I've even got rid of and scrapped some of my most favourited pieces, because im so ashamed that those pieces of crap got 100+ favourites. I don't care about that anymore. I'd rather have a good gallery with little recognition than a bad gallery with a lot of recognition.

:star: edit: many people have mistaken my opinions presented here as a dislike for fanart, some have even thought that I do not consider anime a form of art. Let me say now, i love fanart when its well done or funny, and i think anime is a fascinating style. Im bashing the fanart in my gallery.


So now I will cease my angry rant. Im sorry if any of you were offended, and its okay if you disagree with me. This IS ONLY MY opinion after all, and there are millions of different views out there. But I just had to get it out. Thank you for reading.

~ Elizabeth

Ps. Im sorry for any of you I promised to feature, that will have to wait until my next journal.

Devious Comments


~Cassandra-Incognito:iconCassandra-Incognito: Oct 31, 2007, 11:29:38 AM
Shall I take my stories off? I do have then on FF.net and AFF.net, so if your really bothered by them Liz-a I'm willing to get rid of them.

^^; Even though they are pretty much the only things I get favorites on...

Anyways.

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~stram-stram:iconstram-stram: Oct 31, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
I totally agree with you. I sometimes go on some gallery that look like blogs... -_-
Well.

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*izzyisozaki:iconizzyisozaki: Oct 31, 2007, 11:48:04 AM
By fanart what do you mean specifically?

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~Phoenixfawkes:iconPhoenixfawkes: Oct 31, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
What you're saying makes a lot of sense... and it interesting hearing your point of view on it.. I also think that sometimes these things come across the popular page simply because they're fanart... sometimes there will be something of merit there... but most often than not, its fanart. Its always depressing when someone has a fanart and that gets favourites but something that took just as much time and is NOT a fanart, will get little attention. I know that sometimes you have to start with fanart so as to get people to look at your art, and after they like it, you can post your original work. This simply happens because its hard to find artists through OC's only.
... Its a pity that dA is going through this. dA also has a whole bunch of GRAPHIC DESIGNERS... you know people that do wallpapers with beautiful designs and such? -____- and now they've decided to delete everything... getting rid of graphic artists who spent a lot of time on their work, simply because they use famous bands pictures (with credits) in their work. They are artists too, they take time on their work, and it shows up... but they're getting kicked out... Yet... the pron here? That isn't kicked out? -_____- dA is simply becoming a bad place to be... its no longer the nice art site it used to be...

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~88angel-vivi88:icon88angel-vivi88: Oct 31, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
it's true :sweat: there is a lot of fan sillyness,and porn.like tons of it XD i'm used to opening my search and finding things like that.that ain't fanwork,it's really porn...deviantart used to be an normal art site,but nowadays he recomended for funny fanart and perverted fans (yes i am one -_-/ )

my account on deviantart is for fanart and comics and has many doodles and silly pics,but i don't have money or skill to do masterpiece arts,so it's pretty hard to get favs with normal pics.i hope to do better as soon as i can ,but i wont stop doing fanart pics not just because they are the most viewed of faved,it's because they're fun to do too...even thought i never saw anime the same way i did before i knew fanart,i got pervert and screwed all my innocence = / ....i understand your point.

anime really is art,i think so...sometimes doodles are art too,because it's a kind of expression...it's still a nice site were you can meet diferent opinions and art from many people around the world^^

there are still,beautiful works of artists i really really liked,paitings,stories,and anime works.even thought there were some things that made me dissapointed,there is still art to see here.


you always do such great criticism ^^it's important to have someone who cares like you...

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~1Robin-Lover1:icon1Robin-Lover1: Oct 31, 2007, 12:36:12 PM
thankyou, i felt like such a horrible bitch writing this, but im glad other people see it too :)
~1Robin-Lover1:icon1Robin-Lover1: Oct 31, 2007, 12:43:12 PM
i completely aggree. but they're deleting graphic design????? WTF?????
I feel like a lot of people will not like what i have to say, but i hope no one gets offended, thats not my intention. :tears:
And I'm not bashing fan art, even i enjoy to draw/look at it it myself, i think its just sad that an artist community likes fan art more than traditional art T_T
*hack13:iconhack13: Oct 31, 2007, 12:43:12 PM
-Pulls out cane and puts on her old lady face- BACK IN '03... GIT OFF MAH LAWN, WHIPPERSNAPPER!

Lol. No, I won't do a oldbie rant about the past DA. But I must say that I completely agree with you. For a long period of time most of my gallery was made up of Fan Art and that was (what I like to think) because I spent a lot of time exploring techniques and finding the right groove to slide into. All the time that I spent uploading Fan Art, I'd usually get a bunch of faves and some "omgkawaii!1" comments; nothing that would actually help me in improving. However, now I've slipped out of the Fan Art thing (for the most part...) and gotten into more stylized art, I've noticed that there's been a hefty drop in comments/critiques from other deviants. So again, there is little to no input from people about what I can improve on. Which sucks.

And the PORN. Good god. I've strayed from browsing through the new updates half the time because of all the porn and shit added. There's quite a difference between Artistic Nude and Porn and these people need to understand that.

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~1Robin-Lover1:icon1Robin-Lover1: Oct 31, 2007, 12:44:24 PM
well, personally i feel like fan art is fine. Its fun to draw and look at. The only bad thing im trying to say about it is that people on DA like fan art more that traditional art or other forms are art...
~1Robin-Lover1:icon1Robin-Lover1: Oct 31, 2007, 12:49:52 PM
i know, i am one too. Even some of the stuff in MY gallery is like that. *sigh*
i can't lie, i love your gallery. Its so cute! There is nothing wrong with fan art...i guess what im trying to say is that personally, it sux that my sucky fanart gets way more attention than the art i really care about you know? And there are certain artists out there.... im not going to name names but one of them for example, has over one million pageviews, and the don't even draw the artwork they post! they get someone to draw it, and they VERY BADLY colour it, and just because its funny, they have SOOO many pageviews. *anger*
i TOTALLY agree with you, there is nothing at all wrong about your gallery, so do not take it this way. There was only two artists i had in mind when writing this (the one discussed above) and myself.
don't stop doing your fanart. i love it, and you'r good at it and it makes you happy. I won't stop either :D
i really like what you have to say here! i guess im being WAY too negative, but you're right, there still is a lot of fantastic art too!
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